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DXWarlock
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Picked it up at a friend I play games with a lot request, since he got it a week or so ago. Figured I've spent $40 ion shittier games. and no monthly sub.
I've played a LOT of mmo's. Like probably an unhealthy amount of them haha...around 25-30 I suppose over 20+ years? (some sucked and I lasted a month in them tops).
But I am always an old school MMO player at heart.
I'd give this a 6.5 out of 10.
⚪I myself like the no mounts (it has fast travel but I won't/don't use it), running from place to place with friends or solo gathering or picking random "what's over there" spots off the road and killing things we found along the way.
⚪The region claiming, and helping claim/give resources to one for your faction seems enjoyable. Haven't done it much. But I like the idea I can do crafting/gathering/non-combat role to help maintain/take a region.
⚪No cutscenes and able to spam E on quest is AMAZING. walk up to NPC...spam E until dialog box disappears and you have quest in tracker. (I dislike MMO voiced quests..story means nothing to me in MMO..yes yes I am the 50,000th person you told this dialog to framed in a weirdly fake singular to me context, I..do..not..care.)
⚪Character stats/customization is uber basic. I REALLY wish it had more depth for stats/skill trees. Every MMO now a days is here is 2-3 trees, and some random very very basic stats to tweak so we dont overwhelm you with choices.
⚪Magic users in it is pretty basic. Fire/Ice/Heal. Thats it...and boil down to "You use ice? good you are 95% like every other ice caster"
⚪Non-tab spam number bar combat, instead hit scan, is different. Not fond of it as much as I could be from the above statement. Seems to lose its point when combat boils down to "heavy attack, special ability, quick swing quick swing, block...repeat" (at least works for me I use that 100% of the time for mobs).
⚪The crafting sucks. Its basic 'click a button shit gets made'. I think Vanguard had hands down THE best crafting system. This one is: want 50 food? Slide slider to 50 and click a button...bam 50 food instantly.
⚪Everyone can do all the gathering/crafting options. Don't like that at all. I like having to pick 'my role' to get good at, and rely on others that picked different ones to work together.
⚪Can't comment on the PvP. I dont PvP in MMO's. Seems pointless. 90% gank kills, 10% arena/war fights. And both boil down to mostly gear wins in the end.
It's a good time killer. Its not an MMO I can see myself playing for years due to the lack of depth on character/stats customization and the "we hope 2 choices isnt too many!" weapons trees.
I miss days when MMO's had stats like this for characters. Every bubble on the left had a list of things on the right you could put points into (this is just the points options under 'ranged')..to make a character that plays JUST how you want it to:
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-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2021 13:01 Post subject: |
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You just want the game to be more tedious and boring. Opinions dismissed!
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2021 14:32 Post subject: |
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I want an MMO (any of them really) to be more customizable, with more options on how I play my character my way, and less "Lets speed run level cap" using the same-same for everyone classes.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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spajdr
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2021 14:49 Post subject: |
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Give it year or two then it will be fine, like for the most other MMOs.
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2021 15:52 Post subject: |
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but that would be wow all over again, best way to play wow is to always wait for the next patch haha, at least there is no subs, but i bet some season passes coming with massive FOMO shitcarrotsticks attached
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2021 15:54 Post subject: |
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Maybe it's my own old school stubbornness vs the MMO mentality that came after I formed mine.
Max level for me is:
"Aww..dammit I hit max level! Time to find something to do to keep me occupied."
vs
"Yeah! Finally max level! Now lets see what pre-made content there is to do!"
MY dream MMO would have no levels. Just stats like the image I posted above that sloooowly get harder and harder to raise forever. (like I'd LOVE EvE..if it wasn't for the actual community).
But then again I'm in the minority that absolutely loathes the idea of 'pregenerated end game content'. Because if the devs have to make content for you, its linear, consumable, and finite until they make more. Vs giving players the ability to find/organically grow their own goals.
Like in Neocron I was max level for over a year, doing nothing but standing in Plaza One:
Taking crafting orders, researching weapons for people to make BP to craft with (No Auction House everything was based around player reputation for skill, and face to face trading). Using my maxed poking [implant] skill at 4am reimplanting for people that died and looking for me specifically for generous tips knowing I was online and one of the few at 4am that could be found easy, as would always be in the exact same spot for hours while doing my crafting. (was no global chat, you talked to those actually around you/in your zone).
Or being paid good money to go on warbot hacking trips with tanks that could not hack, but wanted the parts out of them. Spending HOURS while people took down warbots to call me over to 'do my thing' and using me because they knew I would not steal 1/2 the parts out of it and tell them the rest was all there was.
Or running my "corpse retrieval service". You pay me I will go with you as my psimonk and guarantee we can get to your body and I will keep you alive while you loot all your items back. Mobs/player corpse campers or not.
[Did this last one in Ashron's Call too]
Or Anarchy Online once maxed out, standing around helping people 'munchkin' their characters and buffing them to hell and back to do tower raids. Or doing runs as a metaphy meatballer to get parts/gear for people by order "What part you want? X moneys and I will get it and bring it to you delivered". OR running 'door bouncer' at the pyramid temple helping low level players that never ran it before that get swarmed by the last group dragging EVERY mob to the door while running out. Or just standing on the inside surprising new rando's with buffs and heals since there was no instancing of levels.
Give me that, over a Raid Treadmill anyday! Gone are the days that the MM in MMO meant anything other than "Massive amount of other people simply to see them moving/standing around...and at the end game team up with to hit things with weapons as a group in a raid".
Now most interaction between players gameplay wise is just: Tank and Heal LFM for ABC run, send DM.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 11:39 Post subject: |
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Too bad the most promising mmo ever (for me that is) WISH was cancelled before it even hit the market.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2021 12:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2021 15:34 Post subject: |
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there is pretty nifty minimap mod on the webs
yatta yatta officially against TOS but i cba...
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2021 15:50 Post subject: |
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Unfortunately that minimap is using Overwolf which itself sometimes gets detected by EAC.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2021 15:58 Post subject: |
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Yea I was surprised by the lack of minimap in such a big MMO.
But in turn they give you a permanent on-screen compass and markers on it. So far its worked just as well for my needs. Pick a direction "I need to go south to get to town" turn to south and run until there.
Or turn towards my quest marker and hit autorun adjusting to get around things as I go.
But then again, I rarely follow the roads to get anywhere in any MMO to start with.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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Ankh
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Oct 2021 19:10 Post subject: |
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Apparently they fucked up the endgame grind for Watermarks. You can just zerg portals and get chests that reward 1 each time.
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Stige
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2021 20:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2021 20:38 Post subject: |
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game also totally tanked on twitch, shows over folks
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2021 21:44 Post subject: |
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It's a boring grind done well. It will live on as a niche.
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2021 21:51 Post subject: |
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not without fresh content, im suprized i havent read about roadmaps or seasonal events yet ... people expect that shit and need their daily n weekly login drugs like the wow junkies they are
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2021 23:58 Post subject: |
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but it is ... twitch, tiktok, youtube ,snapchat ... has all the eyeballs these days, if ur not relevant there, ur out of the big money club
whats your metric then ?
only gaming press ive seen of new world is negative botting/broken stuff recent weeks ... and no, ive not been looking for it specifically.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 00:14 Post subject: |
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There are plenty of games that don't do well on streaming platforms, yet have healthy playersbases.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 03:37 Post subject: |
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maybe for indy games, but we are talking about amazons first big game here of their billion dollar game studio ... and they bloody own twitch ..., twitch who kept their eyes closed to viewbotting and embeds first weeks just cause its amazons game ... no other game would have gotten away with that shit so long, their mmo game not even being top 10 after mere weeks ... heads be rollin
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dethy
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 05:44 Post subject: |
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| jermore wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | | maybe for indy games, but we are talking about amazons first big game here of their billion dollar game studio ... and they bloody own twitch ..., twitch who kept their eyes closed to viewbotting and embeds first weeks just cause its amazons game ... no other game would have gotten away with that shit so long, their mmo game not even being top 10 after mere weeks ... heads be rollin |
i'm guessing if they cared for longevity, they would not have released the game with such little content in the first place 
game wasn't bad though, i still enjoyed 100 odd hours on this with friends before i burnt out from the repetition/lack of pvp emphasis/no variation in enemies.
can't say i hold out much hope of them adding good content, it kind of seems like they have no plans going forward so it wouldn't surprise me if the population collapsed real quick.. at least we're not paying some shitty subscription.
if they crap out an expansion of sorts i'd even entertain the thought of purchasing it. |
Kinda in the same boat. The game does have a decent foundation to it. They just need to add more content and variety and should be good.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 10:56 Post subject: |
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The game is still bad though, cant see how this will survive, maybe in future if they keep bringing good content (PVE).
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