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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 10:30    Post subject:
Yeah totally agree. was never so impressed with AI as I was in fear.
They use tactics, flank, wait, turn over tables.
They go as far to run around the whole map to shoot me in the back Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 11:39    Post subject:
Yup I remember playing the demo and being totally giddy because of it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 16:21    Post subject:
Damn you guys, now I want to replay F.E.A.R (+ its expansions) and F.E.A.R 2 (+ expansions) - there is no F.E.A.R 3 Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 16:22    Post subject:
yep same here, tho I dont liked expansions.
Finished Fear1 like 10 times Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 16:25    Post subject:
If I remember correctly, Extraction Point was good but Perseus Mandate was terrible.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 16:38    Post subject:
F.E.A.R. is too long for its own good and with very little variation.. I haven't managed to finish it twice.

I start playing, enjoy the crap out of it, but a few hours later I go "oooookay, I've had enough of the same looking cubicles, warehouses and soldiers. It's uninstall time". Great game, needs either more visual variety or to be shorter.

F.E.A.R. XP has more of the same good gameplay but a crappy story. But for an expansion (which usually stands for "more of the same") it's a good game (because it offers exactly that; more of the same).
F.E.A.R. PM has an even worse story AND entirely different gameplay. There are new enemies and they behave entirely different than in the previous 2 F.E.A.R. games, so while it might seem similar, if you actually get to play it you realize it plays much differently. Not a good game.

F.E.A.R. 2 has much greater visual variety than the original but it's not as good of game. Decent for a play through, but that's it. However at least the story unlike the expansions of the first game, is interesting again.

F.E.A.R. 2: Reborn, is a compressed F2 experience so I usually play that over F2.

F.E.A.R. 3 has a meh story, but at least it's about the characters of the original game. The gameplay is arcade-ish and brutal. Very different from the previous ones, but I found the fast pace kinda fun. Since it's co-op focused, all the scares, the atmosphere etc have been removed. Maybe not for everyone, but personally I liked it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 17:00    Post subject:
So, you want to replay F.E.A.R. once again?













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TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 17:16    Post subject:
Arukardo wrote:
It would be a shame if someone would bump Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodline thread Cool Face


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 17:34    Post subject:
DAMn we are living in the past Forever Alone


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 18:17    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Damn you guys, now I want to replay F.E.A.R (+ its expansions) and F.E.A.R 2 (+ expansions) - there is no F.E.A.R 3 Laughing

Then you might as well say that there only exists one FEAR game and no expansions, which is the first one. FEAR 3 is easily the best in the entire series, besides the first game. I absolutely loved it. It's a fantastic shooter that brings back the fun gameplay and makes it even more brutal. I for one, loved FEAR for that and not something else. I would be so happy if they'd make a game that's not horror on that engine with the same gameplay. I don't like horror games, so I didn't like FEAR from that point of view, I liked it because it was a great shooter, absolutely amazing shooting and movement.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 18:56    Post subject:
Looks like someone liked the fast paced action packed F3 gameplay as much as I did Very Happy


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 19:04    Post subject:
F.E.A.R. 3 was certainly better than 2, but the first game is still the king in my book.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 19:20    Post subject:
For me it was:

FEAR 1 : probably the best gunplay and AI that I've ever had the chance to see in a first person shooter. The level design wasn't as good as those aspects, but still far from being bad. A true classic.

FEAR 2: weaker gunplay, far more consolized, with some uninspired and awkward story moments..a FEAR Green Pear Edition but still somewhat enjoyable if you keep your expectations low.

FEAR 3: the gunplay + dynamic cover system did actually work well in this one. But it felt more like a spin-off than a real sequel, with the extremely generic look, and almost no atmosphere at all. It lost all the magic..a wasted opportunity if you ask me.

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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 21:11    Post subject:
I am with You ixi, for fear 1.

Especially shotgun. My god.. man.. the gunplay and ai in that game is still best ever.

I never played fear3, should I amybe ?


The ai in Condemned1 is also very good.


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:29    Post subject:
I'm probably the only one that ranks FEAR XP and Perseus Mandate above FEAR 2 and FEAR 3, but I shall not be moved.


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:38    Post subject:
xp maaaaybe.. but srsly ? PM ? that was some cheapshit studio which even looked and performed worse than an amateur mod


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:43    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:43    Post subject:
Yep.
As crappy as it was the gameplay was really more of the same. But in that case that meant that it was as solid as the one in FEAR and XP and still above of the 2nd rate gameplay from FEAR 2.


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:53    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
But that's just in his imo

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 01:07    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 02:45    Post subject:
FEAR multiplayer was amazing. I played until it was only me left on the servers Forever Alone


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 08:43    Post subject:
Mee too. This and painkiller were only games i liked mp.
Well.. ut was good too


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 08:46    Post subject:
cirithungol wrote:
FEAR multiplayer was amazing. I played until it was only me left on the servers Forever Alone

The free mp portion is still populated. http://www.fearcombat.org/ every day you can find a full server.
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Something interesting:





PS: Give FEAR 1 remaster please. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2016 03:49    Post subject:
Very Happy It's actually a pleasant analysis, and the urge to reinstall the game arises..(must resist)

The iconic AI really was something special for a 2005 game, which is also quite melancholic when you think that the progress in this specific gaming field has been minimal in the last decade, like an Artificial Inhibition. The player has to feel AAAwesome Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2016 04:12    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
...which is also quite melancholic when you think that the progress in this specific gaming field has been minimal in the last decade, like an Artificial Inhibition. The player has to feel AAAwesome Sad


Minimal? At best I would label said progress nonexistent, and at worst (which is more often the case then not), I'd say AI tech has regressed from the level that was displayed in F.E.A.R. 11 years ago.

There's simply been no push at all to make AI behave more realistically. Developers have simply taken the lazy way out and either allowed it to cheat outright (like in RTS' and turn-based strategy titles where it starts with more resources and/or is given a resource multiplier), or simply is given inhuman reflexes, accuracy, and an insane damage boost (take any SP campaign shooter in the last half decade or so).

However, try as I might, I simply can't accept that all of the fault lies with the console tard consumers. I think more or less equal blame can be attributed to both sides - the programmers are lazy/incompetent and the players simply don't care. Everyone's more or less given up. Crying or Very sad


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