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| Pixieking wrote: | | Fox Interactive divesting themselves of games rights |
A wise move by Rupert. There's no money to be made in this new fangled digital media business. A smart man puts his money into sure bets like newspapers.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2014 17:22 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | @Pixieking
If only Fox did the same for all the TV rights they're jealously hoarding  Sell Firefly back to Joss Whedon, for god's sake Fox! |
Tweet Notch to buy them and act as producer while Whedon returns as showrunner. At worst he will be out of like $300M. Peanuts. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2014 18:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Oct 2014 16:27 Post subject: |
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Warner opposed the trademark registration by Night Dive, contesting they own them instead.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135712654&postcount=205
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135713767&postcount=209
| Quote: | Status: A request for an extension of time to file an opposition has been filed with the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. For further information, see TTABVUE on the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board web page.
Status date: Oct. 22, 2014
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| Quote: | ...it's right there in the image.  WB is presumably contesting on the grounds that the subtitles of the sequels -- A Spy in HARM's Way and Contract JACK -- were included in the Monolith sale, but those particular trademarks have been dead for years. No One Lives Forever itself was not part of the sale, so what may happen is that Night Dive will get the green light for NOLF but HARM and JACK will be stuck in legal limbo. As for the actual copyright to the games themselves, despite Fox Interactive being absorbed into the giant blob that is Vivendi, Fox proper retained ownership.
Alternatively, maybe this was Night Dive's plan all along -- rustle somebody's feathers and let them have the trademarks if they're willing to make an effort to work with Fox to re-release the games, but WB going that extra mile strikes me as unlikely. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 10:12 Post subject: |
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^ Warner wasn't successful. It's back to what Night Dive wants to do now.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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prudislav
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 00:52 Post subject: |
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http://www.pcgamer.com/no-one-lives-forever-re-release-isnt-happening-after-all/
| Quote: | Night Dive Studios filed for a trademark on No One Lives Forever last year, which was cause for celebration not only because NOLF was such a great game but also because Night Dive seemed like the ideal outfit to bring it to modern platforms: They're the guys who were finally able to resurrect System Shock 2, after all. But studio founder Stephen Kick has told Kotaku that after months of trying to nail down the rights to the game and make something happen, it's all come to naught.
The first and foremost challenge facing Night Dive was figuring out who actually owned the rights to the game. It was developed by Monolith and published by Fox Interactive, but in the decade-and-a-half since it came out, Monolith was acquired by Warner Bros. Interactive, while Fox Interactive was purchased by Vivendi, which then entered into a merger with Activision. Warner appeared to be the primary rights holder but told Night Dive that Activision "has some ownership" as well, as a result of that merger.; Activision, however, said it couldn't confirm its standing because the records predated digital storage and it wasn't entirely sure where the paperwork was. 20th Century Fox, which Night Dive also contacted, was in the same boat.
There wasn't much enthusiasm for the idea of re-releasing NOLF from anyone, according to the report, but the wheels didn't come off entirely until December 2014, when Night Dive received a letter from an attorney representing Warner that threatened legal action if it went ahead with a new version of the game. That led to further back-and-forth regarding licensing, but in February the final word came down that Warner wasn't interested in either publishing an updated NOLF itself, or partnering with Night Dive to make it happen. Because of that, Night Dive said it will now let its trademark on the title lapse.
It's a tremendously disappointing outcome. No One Lives Forever was a brilliant game (the sequel was pretty good, too) and it's an absolute shame that corporate indifference has left it trapped in limbo. I still hold out hope that it will be released again someday, but obviously it's not going to be anytime soon. |
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 01:07 Post subject: |
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I've read that article. It's rather amazing how retarded this world can be in some aspects...
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 01:14 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | Warner is a piece of turd wow. what a disgusting company. 
luckily both games run great on my win 7 rig. actually completed the first one, second one is still backlogged. |
I thought greedimax was bad, but these WB cunts are rapidly ascending to the top in my book...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 01:31 Post subject: |
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Fuck this company in the butt. 
Thankfully both the games are indeed fully playable (they require some minor adjustments and ini tweaks for widescreen, but they're basically perfect), and they've aged fairly well too, especially NOLF 2 which is still pretty darn good looking.
And honestly I wouldn't want a sequel/reboo either, because I know that it would be turned into a button-mashing-follow-based-XP-powered-visceral-soreal fest and that would hurt even more.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 01:58 Post subject: |
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so basically
we dont wanna do it
buuttt... we dont want anyone else to do it either, just in case it turns out to be a big hit that we missed out on...
also, we dont want to do it in a partnership, because that sounds like work...
and we dont want to be silent partners that just take a bunch of profits without doing any actual investment because... because.... SQUIRREL!
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 02:54 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | Fuck this company in the butt.
Thankfully both the games are indeed fully playable (they require some minor adjustments and ini tweaks for widescreen, but they're basically perfect), and they've aged fairly well too, especially NOLF 2 which is still pretty darn good looking.
And honestly I wouldn't want a sequel/reboo either, because I know that it would be turned into a button-mashing-follow-based-XP-powered-visceral-soreal fest and that would hurt even more. |
If you can actually get the games. Fine, we can pirate it, but let's pretend that's not a way to get the game since "filthy pirates stealing our sold copies!". What then? How the hell do you get these games nowadays?! By buying a rare physical copy if you can find one?! Anything else?! Yeah, nothing really...
The saddest part is that the people Night Dive are trying to deal with to get approval for the remasters don't even know what NOLF is, they likely aren't even gamers. They're just in this for business reasons because "hey guiseeeeeeeee! gaming is moneyzzzzzzzzzzzz! let's get in!". |
Haha yeah, unfortunately that's accurate.  From how I see it, their opinion on the matter means less than zero. Piracy is a very viable way to seal the deal, it's our personal, official, 100% working GrOG service!
The original developers should organize some sort of funding thingy, so we can personally paypal them $10 as a thank you, and no one else can interfere with the greediness. xD |
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2015 09:36 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | so basically
we dont wanna do it
buuttt... we dont want anyone else to do it either, just in case it turns out to be a big hit that we missed out on...
also, we dont want to do it in a partnership, because that sounds like work...
and we dont want to be silent partners that just take a bunch of profits without doing any actual investment because... because.... SQUIRREL! |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2017 23:26 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 10:08; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2017 23:32 Post subject: |
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Thanks for these...nice replay value...I have both original disks....HD YES!!
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2017 23:40 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2017 23:59 Post subject: |
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It's pretty handy indeed, they're the base versions conveniently repacked including the updates + two popular widescreen patches 
Thankfully even with the inexplicable melodrama surrounding the IP, the PC always finds a way.
I re-re-^n played them both last year, had to follow the classic manual procedure, by grabbing 'em from GOG Isozone and downloading the goodies from:
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/No_One_Lives_Forever
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/No_One_Lives_Forever_2:_A_Spy_in_H.A.R.M.'s_Way
They both work great on modern systems if patched up properly, amazing games that anyone should play, with their different approaches, philosophies and dat British humour. They really don't make 'em like this anymore, timeless masterpieces.
They also serve as yet another reminder to ridicule Anita and the likes when they throw up drivels about the lack of charismatic badass female characters 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2017 00:37 Post subject: |
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need to play the second one already. the first one was good a few years back, but the lack of a lean button did make it feel a bit dated.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2017 00:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2017 00:49 Post subject: |
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not to mention Kate is made attractive with make up and voluptuous assets to please the patriarchy. glad we finally moved on from that cavemen era.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2017 10:00 Post subject: |
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http://kotaku.com/the-sad-story-behind-a-dead-pc-game-that-cant-come-back-1688358811
Yeah shame they couldn't work out the rights to the game, seems they already had the code for the first two games and a list of fixes and improvements even some marketing material but being forced to stop due to those publishers quibbling over whoever owns the game trademark was unfortunate.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jan 2017 11:02 Post subject: |
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For those that play NOLF (1), IF animations are running too fast, just enable V-Sync.
Had this little issue but it's fixed now.
Beautiful gems, these two games are...
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Oct 2017 11:10 Post subject: |
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No One Lives Forever: The spy shooter that saved Monolith
Our woman on the inside
| Quote: | After launching the anime-inspired mech-shooter SHOGO: Mobile Armor Division, Monolith Productions was down in the dumps. Although SHOGO had reviewed pretty well, internally Monolith's view on the game reflected my own when I returned to it a few weeks ago. In both style and substance SHOGO fell short of the developer's expectations, and in some areas it was downright broken.
Nevertheless, Monolith saw the game as a failure, and their misery was compounded by the equally problematic release of Blood 2: The Chosen. The difficulties encountered by both games left Monolith visibly bruised, forcing it to restructure and let go of its publishing arm. With its identity compromised, Monolith needed an extraction, and it would be down to super-spy Cate Archer to undertake the mission.
Although she nearly didn't. |
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-01-no-one-lives-forever-the-spy-shooter-that-saved-monolith
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Oct 2017 11:22 Post subject: |
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Now in 2017 this must be the safest ip to revive, so do it!
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Oct 2017 20:56 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Now in 2017 this must be the safest ip to revive, so do it! |
to bad its iIIP rights situation is such a mess |
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