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I think ixigia can attest for how much better 7 is for gaming than xp. 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 01:34 Post subject: |
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I have seen a few driver packs already that came in 32 bits.
Anyway the all purpose registers on a 64 bits processor are 64 bits but the addressing registers are 40 bits, I read somewhere.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 01:36 Post subject: |
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What driver packs? You just download drivers for the hardware you own, and you should always download the newest drivers.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 03:32 Post subject: |
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For a Microsoft OS, Windows 7 is fantastic.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 11:00 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | lol 
I experienced an overall performance improvement of around 10-15%, and in some recent games (ie. BC2) the framerate nearly doubled |
I'm using Win XP x86 along with Win 7 x64 and this is definitely true.
Strangely, the only game where I found XP to run better than 7 was Crysis. You know, that game that urged you to go out and get Vista, that would run better on a DX10 machine and that would REALLY make use of your 64bit OS.
I've tried all the possible modes on Win 7(DX9 32, DX9 64, DX10 32 and DX10 64) but the game just runs better on my XP installation.
But in every other game and especially with some of the most recent titles like Metro 2033 , BC2, etc, Win 7 absolutely pulverizes XP.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 13:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 14:04 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | Anyway I am going back to XP x64 and will play with 7 in a VM to learn how to tackle it, to much irritation to use it atm.
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Good luck with XP x64 driver support then.
| iconized wrote: | I am one of those people that really hates it if an OS makes decisions for me
Like the "My Documents" folder introduced in Win95 for example.
As if MS can decide where I place my data and how this folder should be named and yes I know how to change that.
My Documents, My Excel Documents, My Porn Pictures, My Porn Videos...
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You don't like the seperation of system files/processes from user files/processes? Maybe you should try to understand that in this case the "old way" was simply wrong. It was a bad design decision of the original Windows that MS is trying hard to correct (and they do well IMO).
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 14:12 Post subject: |
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My bad
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 14:17 Post subject: |
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| me7 wrote: | | You don't like the seperation of system files/processes from user files/processes? Maybe you should try to understand that in this case the "old way" was simply wrong. It was a bad design decision of the original Windows that MS is trying hard to correct (and they do well IMO). |
You assume that I don't understand that.
For the same reason the registry was introduced to collect system, program and user settings both binary and strings.
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Win7 takes about a week to get used to. Once you allow a few days to figure stuff out, you will never ever go back to XP.
Also, XP does not work with 4GB of memory.
Also, every device that worked for XP works for Win7. I have every single driver available for 64 bit. There is no driver issues.
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You are prolly right todd72173
I should state here that I created this thread while being a ipsy tipsy bitsy fucking drunk
And FYI I have been a system administrator for years handling NT server and workstation some Win95, 98 and ME (and an occasional Mac) but I have ritually slaughtered the old Macs at some point.
So I'm gonna resume what led me to my anger...
Before the Win7 trial I used a WinXP x86 "stripped to the bone" installation.
This great package has everything stripped from the OS that is really not needed by a power user.
This installation has prolly run stable for 5 years even while I have changed graphics cards at least twice and have replaced both MB and CPU.
So I had Win7 x64 installed and then the painstaking process started to configure it to my needs and wants.
I wanted to test the overclockability of my new graphics card and installed MSI Afterburner.
This was placed in the "Program Files (x86)" folder.
I needed to adjust the a cfg file in there with Notepad and since the cfg extension does not have an association yet, I decided to place a shortcut to Notepad in the "Send To" folder of my profile.
I could not enter my profile and also in the "users" folder it was forbidden to go there.
Okay so I select to open it with Notepad after double clicking it.
Furthermore I really don't like to associate every possible extension with a certain program, having a shortcut to Notepad, hexeditor, whatever in the "Send To" folder nullifies the need for that.
As I wrote earlier, after the little edit I tried to save this file and I was not allowed to do so.
Before I created this thread I had already disabled UAC and got this solved.
Was quite a relief btw not seeing warnings whenever I tried to startup a program like GPU-Z.
MSI Afterburner could not accomplish what I wanted to do and that is to adjust the Vcore of my new graphics card.
After this I realised that I had to install K10STAT.
This is a great tool for underclocking a Phenom 3 or 4 core CPU and/or lowering the CPU/NB voltage (separately) while the PC is idle or not.
Increases the life expectancy of the CPU in the long run and decreases juice consumption.
So I created a folder "K10STAT" in ""Program Files (x86)" and copied a couple of files in there.
Then I wanted to create a shorcut in the "Startup" folder of my profile so this tool would be loaded each time Win7 starts which I should have known by then I was not allowed to do either.
In the meanwhile I have noticed that services like indexing, firewall, restore points, defrag, hibernation, etc were running.
All of which I don't fucking want.
Should it not be normal that after a successful installation of Win7 that the OS guides me through a wizard allowing me to setup things the way I want it and turn certain features on or off?
That is what I meant when I said I want to be in control.
MS should not make these decisions for me, fuck off.
About the default hibernation setting, easy to switch off but 1st it needs to happen before you know it is there.
While my PC was busy computing Win7 decides the PC is idle and goes into hiberfuckingnation.
So I disabled it but in the root of my HDD there is still a 1,5 GB hiberfil.sys or something.
A file I am not allowed to delete.
Having an (historically old) HDD of 80 GB, I don't need clutter files like that one on my disk.
Also funny to mention here that I changed the view settings of any folder on my HDD and prolly by mistake other storage devices as well.
This caused Win7 to wanna write a desktop.ini file to my Blu-ray disk, lol.
So Afterburner did not work for me in adjusting the Vcore of my graphics card I decided to give ASUS' SmartDoctor a try.
One should suspect all programs that are called either smart or doctor let alone both.
Installed it, rebooted and while the pc is still starting up the screen goes black and system hangs (Numlock key on keyboard not working anymore) great.
Googling told me later that this proggy has more issues wth Win7 x64 installations.
So I reset the system and start up in safe mode and try to remove SmartDoctor.
Win7 tells me it can't be removed since the Installer Service is not running.
I am pretty sure this could have been solved with other means but at that point fumes were escaping from my ears, my blood was boiling and Win7 HAD KILLED MY INNER CHILD 
Running WinXP x64 now and seems stable...
Edit: Have to add here that this is a highlighted experience granted by Win7.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 21:10 Post subject: |
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XP install does same thing by having firewall, security, hibernation, system restore, etc all activated. You got to do same thing in Win7 - change settings to your preference. No difference.
Also, all 32 bit apps get installed in the x86 folder. All 64 bit apps get installed in just the 'program' folder.
I dont do any OC so cant advise you there. Everytime I OC muy CPU chip - I get computer freezes. Same with my vid card.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2010 21:27 Post subject: |
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iconized, it is possible to create a custom, preconfigured system image and have it install that.
http://www.vlite.net/download.html
Use this tool to modify everything you don't want.
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| iconized wrote: |
In the meanwhile I have noticed that services like indexing, firewall, restore points, defrag, hibernation, etc were running.
All of which I don't fucking want.
Should it not be normal that after a successful installation of Win7 that the OS guides me through a wizard allowing me to setup things the way I want it and turn certain features on or off?
That is what I meant when I said I want to be in control.
MS should not make these decisions for me, fuck off.
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You see the problem is a very high percentage of microsofts sales are going to be pre installed OS on pre build computers and laptops which are usually bought by the less tech savy people who will benefit from having all these features turned on by default. Those kind of people dont want to have to worry with all those issues and tasks they just want a OS that runs well and lets them browse the net, do work or play games ...
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Who are they to decide that for me? I want to put them in "Controlsky Panelsky"... 
