XCOM: Chimera Squad
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Apr 2020 09:23    Post subject:
If it was a 60$ game, I'd agree, but for 10$ or even 20$, It's pretty much A-Ok.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Apr 2020 09:45    Post subject:
It's not a step backwards, it's more of a step sideways to test various mechanics for XCOM 3.

The metagame is streamlined because it's more of a story-driven game.

I wouldn't mind breaching mechanics for specific missions in XCOM as it gives you tactical variance and removes the tedium of moving into positions.

Some of the abilities are a cool develpment of XCOM2 stuff.

And I wouldn't mind unique named characters for better storytelling (although as I said in this game they are meh).
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Apr 2020 11:12    Post subject:
yup like sin and dsergei says

DCB wrote:
Small is not the problem, it's that it has been streamlined into the ground.

i would say thats the point of this one (which was pretty obvious from the announcment) , quick experimental casualized xcom spinof just to test things out before reveal of full fledged xcom 3 (Solomon wasnt even involve in it beyond playing https://twitter.com/SolomonJake/status/1250062344899760132 )

tbh i am surprised people are surprised , this is not xcom 3 (which is obviously indev), this is just experiment to go against Gears Tactics.


also...
something weird is going on on r/xcom with the snek waifus Surprised


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Apr 2020 11:40    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
something weird is going on on r/xcom with the snek waifus Surprised

Nah, they just reverted to their pre-X2 release state.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 13:33    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:


Laughing


Hipster Squad Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 13:59    Post subject:
You need to be high on something in order to play this game
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 18:12    Post subject:
Will post my review tonight, but Hipster squad is about right.. what an abomination of a game!


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 18:30    Post subject:
just turn sound of and pretend its a mobile game Smile

Hope some modders and voice actors will make some audio mods, for better immersion, will be a good chance to gain some efame
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 18:38    Post subject:
"what an abomination of a game"

Yeah, can't wait to see that objective "review" of your, lol.

It's XCOM2.5+
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 20:22    Post subject:
the 0.5 being the amount of obnoxiousness being added to the formula?

Will this be another 'Sin says its a great game until he's 15 hours in' and it becomes shit. Time will tell! :>

I'm sure the gameplay will be fine for a 15$ game, the tone however puts me entirely off.


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 20:47    Post subject:
It is pretty funny that there is not a single white male in the squad (aside from maybe the comms guy, Whisper, who's non-combat personnel). The most truly offensive thing about it though is that they retconned the Mutons into having fucking fish faces.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 20:56    Post subject:
it's XCOM with breaching. I don't what's bad about that. If in XCOM 3 they use that for e.g. VIP missions or some other single target missions, that would be more than welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 21:05    Post subject:
any idea if the breach mechanic can be modded into old xcom if they copy some files ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Apr 2020 21:21    Post subject:
Don't think so. I think that would include a lot of hardcoded stuff. You have to take into account maps, breach items, effects, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 08:17    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
it's XCOM with breaching. I don't what's bad about that.

The major problem with it, mechanically speaking, is that it is a series of breaching into maps the size of an average lounge room. You also "breach" when outside on the middle of a fucking open freeway. They really should have diversified the maps a bit more by reusing some of X2's map parcels and dialled back the breach mechanic to where it actually makes sense.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 08:30    Post subject:
Oh, I agree, that for a fully-fledged game, we need several types of scenarios. Absolutely.

But for a scenario type like here, it works. And by the way, you get way bigger areas the more you move forwards, including big outside areas.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 09:13    Post subject:
I've beaten the game, so I've seen pretty much all the maps. There's only one really "big" area, which is still tiny compared to X2 maps, but more of that size would have helped add a bit of tactical diversity.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 14:57    Post subject:
God damn this game likes to hold your hand like a raging homosexual. Veeeery simplified combat, you can't even move on your own between rooms.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 20:33    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
"what an abomination of a game"

Yeah, can't wait to see that objective "review" of your, lol.

It's XCOM2.5+


Objective reviewing? That's not how it works... reviews are an opinion - and therefore is the complete opposite of objectivity.

You cannot review something objectively - it's a complete contradiction in terms.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 22:16    Post subject:
Of course, you can be objective.

Talk about its bugs (or it not having any, either way), that's objective.

Bitching about the color of the opening screen, that's subjective Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2020 23:13    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
"what an abomination of a game"

Yeah, can't wait to see that objective "review" of your, lol.

It's XCOM2.5+


Objective reviewing? That's not how it works... reviews are an opinion - and therefore is the complete opposite of objectivity.

You cannot review something objectively - it's a complete contradiction in terms.


100% agree, both reviewer and the person reading can have wildly different opinions. From a review perspective you are definitely going to frame it based off your enjoyment.

Off the top of my head Sin gave Diablo 3, Fallout 76 and Mass Effect Andromeda good reviews, case closed.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2020 11:15    Post subject:
I never gave a "review" for any of these games. I don't think so anyway.

I never even played FO76 until now... and I find it barely enjoyable.

Andromeda was a fun game, not a mass effect game, that was enjoyable until you got to the end and realized how much you got fucked over with missing storylines and cancellation of any future support/DLC's.

D3 we played all the demo and we got fucked over by that short first 10 levels, where stats don't matter...
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