Shenmue I & II (SEGA)
Page 2 of 4 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Bob Barnsen




Posts: 31973
Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Tue, 17th Apr 2018 06:08    Post subject:
Shenmue I & II will release for $29.99 USD
https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue/shenmue-1-and-2-coming-to-pc-2018


Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
Back to top
prudislav
VIP Member



Posts: 29148
Location: The land of beer and porn
PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 09:27    Post subject:
Seems like Xbox libe evealed the date
Quote:
Release date: Monday, 20 August 2018, 4:00:00 pm

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/p/shenmue-i-ii/bzzp5hfc3pgj?activetab=pivot%3Aoverviewtab


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
Back to top
Frant
King's Bounty



Posts: 24687
Location: Your Mom
PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 09:36    Post subject:
QTE-fest.


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
Back to top
prudislav
VIP Member



Posts: 29148
Location: The land of beer and porn
PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 16:19    Post subject:


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
Back to top
consolitis
VIP Member



Posts: 27317

PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 17:00    Post subject:
Tis 30 fps unfortunately.

https://shenmue.sega.com/faq

Quote:
Which version of Shenmue II did we port?

For technical reasons we started with the Xbox source code and data.
This has the advantage of some additional features missing from the Dreamcast version:

Snapshots system
Filters
Texture mip-maps to improve anti-aliasing

As some community members will know, the Xbox does have some graphical differences to the DC version which will also be present in our version.


What features have we added?

As well as the herculean effort of porting the code to the new platforms, there is a huge number of things we have added:

Choice of Japanese or English speech in both games
Saves can be carried over from Shenmue into Shenmue II on all platforms
Saving anywhere in both games

HD resolution rendering
Updated UI
New post processing effects for both games
Full controller support and configurable mouse and keyboard for PC users

Full Achievement support for both games on all platforms



What does Modern control scheme mean?

Modern control scheme means we have enabled use of the analogue stick instead of the D-Pad for movement of Ryo, as well as adding full mouse and keyboard support for PC users.


Will the games run at 60Hz?

Throughout the engine, game code and scripts there are hard coded assumptions about a fixed 30Hz frame update rate, so the game needs to run at 30Hz.



Is the game 4:3 or widescreen?

Gameplay where the player can control the camera is 16:9.

Cutscenes are letterboxed in their original formats.



Can the emulated arcade games be played?

We are pleased to announce that all the arcade games in the original are fully playable in the new release!



Who do we have to thank for this incredible work?

The amazing team at d3t.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
Back to top
JBeckman
VIP Member



Posts: 35164
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 19:47    Post subject:
Guessing graphical differences also means the brand name products are not used though then again that'd probably be a licensing nightmare to get sorted out plus costs.

Framerate's a bit of a unfortunate drawback but at least it makes sense for the games age and how some games are just so heavily coded for a certain update rate or framerate so it's quite a task to undo that and make it uncapped.
4:3 letter-boxing for cutscenes is understandable if it's pre-renered maybe upscaled and filtered cinematic files they're working with.
Back to top
Interinactive
VIP Member



Posts: 29477

PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 23:16    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 09:51; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
ace2kx




Posts: 1996

PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jul 2018 23:31    Post subject:
Should charge less since it is an old game, men.
Back to top
Interinactive
VIP Member



Posts: 29477

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 00:11    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 09:51; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
VGAdeadcafe




Posts: 22230
Location: ★ ಠ_ಠ ★
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 00:27    Post subject:
They managed the "herculean effort" to port the game to newer platforms but not to change the 30 fps lock into a 60 fps lock. Congrats. Laughing
Back to top
Morphineus
VIP Member



Posts: 24883
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 01:31    Post subject:
Honestly the more I hear the more I think: what's the point? I might as well keep playing my DC version.


Back to top
ixigia
[Moderator] Consigliere



Posts: 65132
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 04:22    Post subject:
Yeah, that's quite disappointing. Keeping the classic visuals/style practically intact isn't a problem for me, but 30fps is a sin (I imagine that there's stuff tied to the framerate and whatnot, still, it is a quick very-low-effort attempt). I hope at least m&kb controls will be acceptable enough, I've never played the game(s) and was waiting for this version to finally do it. Razz Oh well, the segaisobear shall patiently wait as per tradition.
Back to top
JackQ
Non-expret in Derps lagunge



Posts: 14219
Location: Kibbutznik, Israel
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 05:22    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
Honestly the more I hear the more I think: what's the point? I might as well keep playing my DC version.

Xbox version at this point, Emulation is quite progressive at this point.

I fully agree with people here the PC port looks more and more shallow , 30 FPS cap and Denvuo? no buy.

Though I FULLY believe people will bypass both of these things...


"Fuck Denuvo"

Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
Back to top
JBeckman
VIP Member



Posts: 35164
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 10:16    Post subject:


Sounds like the port was really problematic though the video also covers other info. Smile


Shenmue 1 - Dreamcast version, Shenmue 2 - XBox version including improvements.
Not a remake or a remaster strictly but something in-between a port and a remaster.
(Higher resolution, improved loading time, widescreen support outside of cutscenes.)
Messy code base from the sounds of it thus some of these difficulties with porting it over.
Original (compressed.) audio. (Dreamcast for Shen1, XBox for Shen2)
30 FPS on console, still unconfirmed on PC.
Arcade games are in.
Save anywhere.
Time skip is still only available in Shenmue 2 and not the first game.
PC, PS4 and XBoxOne with PS4 and XBox one getting physical releases.
30$ price.
English and Japanese voices.
Save importing works although you won't be importing the save to Shenmue 3 later.
Back to top
Kaltern




Posts: 5859
Location: Lockerbie, Scotland
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 10:28    Post subject:
This absolutely isn't a cash in on Shenmue 3. Nope, not at all.

30fps could be 'fixed' if they'd change the code, but it appears they're not, just updating a few visuals. Typical porting of an old game. Hardly worth the effort - especially for that price.


Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern

Follow me on Twitter if you feel like it... @kaltern

My system: Ryzen 7 3700x|Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super Windforce OC|Vengeance 3000Mz 16Gb RAM|2x 500Gb Samsung EVO 970 M.2 SSD |SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB + OCZ Vertex 2 60Gb SSD|EVA Supernova 650W PSU|Logitech G27 Wheel|Logitech G19 Gaming Pad|SteelSeries Arctis 7|Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse + Logitech MX Master Mouse|Razer Blackwidow Chroma X Keyboard|Oculus Quest 2 + Link|Pixio PX7 Prime 165hz HDR & 1x Samsung 24FG70FQUEN 144Hz curved monitor

-= Word to the wise: Having a higher forum post does not mean you are right. =-
Back to top
JBeckman
VIP Member



Posts: 35164
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 11:18    Post subject:
Mainstream is what it comes down to I suppose.

SEGA being surprised at the positive reception to the games being re-released is kinda telling since fans have been asking about it for some time but only with Shenmue 3 sparking an interest in the franchise are they doing it and even then since they're surprised about this getting such a positive reception they can't have had very high opinions about it to begin with.

Or at least not expected much of a return of whatever they had to invest into porting the games over to current-gen systems which is also why it is ported with a few enhancements instead of a more thorough overhaul since they're still being really cautious about it and probably don't have too high expectations sales wise although now with pre-order numbers probably soaring they might change their opinions a bit but the works just about over with so it's not going to affect the games in any way but might drive interest in creating a new game though then you'd have SEGA being behind Shenmue 4 and their decision being final on what the game should contain.
(Although Shenmue 3 in comparison is probably having to balance budget far more than if they had a larger publisher backing the game though of course said publisher would expect the game within a deadline and without having overstepped the budget.)

It's what I'm getting at least, they're not outright saying it of course but SEGA's not taking any real risks and doing a fairly standard port although they're adding some enhancements at least though much of the technical work requiring effort and investment is left as is unless they have to change it.
(Recording the audio and coding the engine for proper 60 FPS support wouldn't be a small amount of work and would probably also be costly though if they had higher expectations for sales it would probably have been considered more.)
Back to top
consolitis
VIP Member



Posts: 27317

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 12:30    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
So then charge $5 for it, if they're not prepared to do any real work in regards to making it display nicely on modern systems. The other additions are nice, I guess, but it seems I might as well keep emulating it


They already did real work: porting it. It wasn't running on Unreal Engine 3+ or something like modern games do to click a couple of times and presto, it's almost there.

Note I'm not commenting on whether the current price is right (but $5 is definitely not right either), only on whether there was "real work" involved.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
Back to top
Interinactive
VIP Member



Posts: 29477

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 12:34    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 09:50; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
consolitis
VIP Member



Posts: 27317

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 12:48    Post subject:
If you think people won't be buying Shenmue then Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
Back to top
JackQ
Non-expret in Derps lagunge



Posts: 14219
Location: Kibbutznik, Israel
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 12:53    Post subject:
Some people will but some won't.

It's more of a question of how much.


"Fuck Denuvo"

Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
Back to top
lametta




Posts: 2632

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 12:58    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
If you think people won't be buying Shenmue then Laughing


TBH i played shenmue back in the day but as i mentioned before it didnt age well. I will probably only buy it in a good sale.

Anyhow it is hard to attract a new crowd to that.
Smart thing would be to sell the first and second one cheap and not put denuvo on it in order to broaden the customer base for a game that has a 3 on it and most (younger) gamers dont even know as a franchise.
Back to top
DCB




Posts: 5410

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2018 14:56    Post subject:
Sega have nothing to do with 3. This is not an attempt to boost sales of 3, it's an attempt to cash in after 3 has revived interest in the franchise.
Back to top
Interinactive
VIP Member



Posts: 29477

PostPosted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 11:22    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 09:50; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
DCB




Posts: 5410

PostPosted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 15:39    Post subject:
"Sega cares". Yeah, totally, that's absolutely what it is.
Back to top
prudislav
VIP Member



Posts: 29148
Location: The land of beer and porn
PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2018 19:01    Post subject:

Quote:
Join Corey Marshall, the voice actor of Ryo Hazuki as he takes you on a journey to discover how the story of Shenmue I & II helped define modern gaming.


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
Back to top
prudislav
VIP Member



Posts: 29148
Location: The land of beer and porn
PostPosted: Sat, 11th Aug 2018 00:49    Post subject:

Quote:
Corey Marshall, the English-version voice actor of Ryo Hazuki, presents a series of videos exploring the world of Shenmue. Today, we’re delving deeper into the characters themselves.


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
Back to top
prudislav
VIP Member



Posts: 29148
Location: The land of beer and porn
PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2018 01:22    Post subject:


Also


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
Back to top
Interinactive
VIP Member



Posts: 29477

PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2018 01:24    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 09:47; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
lametta




Posts: 2632

PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2018 01:27    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Who needs Voski when you have sensible SEGA Laughing

they probably noticed that yakuza 0 is not good for business when it comes to shenmue
Back to top
0wen




Posts: 3566

PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2018 05:52    Post subject:
If they do not end up adding Denuvo back it probably was causing some sort of game bug or slowdown they could not fix and with that release date creeping up on them they went for the easier choice.
Back to top
Page 2 of 4 All times are GMT + 1 Hour
NFOHump.com Forum Index - PC Games Arena Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Signature/Avatar nuking: none (can be changed in your profile)  


Display posts from previous:   

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group