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| hellishere wrote: | Yap it does have its flaws, has a standalone stealth game, its pretty dam good, as a SC game, it lacks a few things , but compared to conviction? This is a masterpiece..
Anyways i am replaying some missions atm from it on perfectionist..still enjoy it a lot.
I wish i could play double agent decently, but the pc versions is bugged to death.. |
yep, played on perfectionist, and non lethal full ghost mode, hence it took me 35ish hours. probably twice as long than any other SC game. its a fantastic game. and I can see myself replaying with weapons and murdering everyone next time 
As for double agent PC, that's why i rated it so low. there were quite a few bugs, the worst being the 2 out of the 3 parts in the second to last mission crash 90% of times on loading after getting spotted/killed, requiring a game restart... otherwise it would be above Pandora tommorow.
| vaifan1986 wrote: | @Drowning_witch
You liked Double Agent more than Chaos Theory?
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NVM, you meant the emulated stuff |
yep, the ps2 emulated version of double agent is like chaos theory, but with even more variety, challenge, and great level design. Its a testament to how good the game is that I put up with pretty crappy emulation.
Chaos Theory is prettier and more polished, but it's a bit easier, which makes it only second best in my book. One big flaw of chaos theory is the ability to knock down baddies right next to their friends.
In Double agent old gen, you had to drag them outside their hearing range to put them to sleep, as their body would fall down loudly.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:31 Post subject: |
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I liked Blacklist but with the bugs in the crack I never finished it. And I don't use uplay so legit isn't going to happen on this one.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:37 Post subject: |
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| dodger2020 wrote: | | I liked Blacklist but with the bugs in the crack I never finished it. And I don't use uplay so legit isn't going to happen on this one. |
The bugs are in the game, not the crack. I have the original and it's one technical fail after another. A shit port. |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:42 Post subject: |
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I guess the 360 version of Double Agent is much better. Played both old and new and new is just improved on top of the old one, great SC title.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:43 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | I liked Blacklist but with the bugs in the crack I never finished it. And I don't use uplay so legit isn't going to happen on this one. |
The bugs are in the game, not the crack. I have the original and it's one technical fail after another. A shit port. |
he is talikng about blacklist, you seem to be talking about double agent?
there's no bugs in blacklist other than the crack crashes. Luckily I had the legit one.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:43 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | | I guess the 360 version of Double Agent is much better. Played both old and new and new is just improved on top of the old one, great SC title. |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:44 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | I liked Blacklist but with the bugs in the crack I never finished it. And I don't use uplay so legit isn't going to happen on this one. |
The bugs are in the game, not the crack. I have the original and it's one technical fail after another. A shit port. |
he is talikng about blacklist, you seem to be talking about double agent?
there's no bugs in blacklist other than the crack crashes. Luckily I had the legit one. |
Blacklist, not Double Agent. It's a technical failure. But hey, I guess if you didn't have any issues, then no bugs exist whatsoever.  |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:50 Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about crashes due to the latest crack, that's what I was referring to.
What bugs did you have with the legit version?
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:57 Post subject: |
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Crashes, resolution would not save, game would open in windowed mode and crash when entering full screen, crashes.
Let's see what else...
Crashes.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 12:57 Post subject: |
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Blacklist was one big techfail.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 13:02 Post subject: |
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that sucks. I guess i'm glad it ran flawless and bug free for me then 
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 13:22 Post subject: |
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I have Cocklist since day 1 (unotplay version, not cracked) and I never had any crashes. Yes I have the starting windowed "problem" but the game doesn't crash when I use alt enter to maximize. I don't remember having any issues at all, fps drops or crashes or anything.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 13:58 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | harry_theone wrote: | | I guess the 360 version of Double Agent is much better. Played both old and new and new is just improved on top of the old one, great SC title. |
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Yeah you hurrdurrface, so much stealth in Double Agent 360 
I have another game for you that is "much better" - Gears of War and Halo. |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 14:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 17:13 Post subject: |
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you are right, I forgot the change in the stealth meter. Although I don't feel that changed the game for the worse. stealth was still good. In my experience, in the earlier games, the gradual stealth meter wasn't really used at all, it was always really about invisible or visible, the in between was just guards thinking they saw something, which in double agent was replaced by time of exposure to yellow, so in practice it really was the same.
And yeah, not enough dark levels. the old gen version did a lot better there, and that comes back to my complaint for the lack of content.
You can see my shots in the screenshot thread from last week when I played double agent. I think the darkness looked better than the ones you posted.
Its not the pinnacle of the series, but outside of bugs, I was not disappointed with the game as I thought I would be, considering the feedback I read. It was still very much a splinter cell game. it was just rushed and had too few levels.
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Yes, compared to Conviction, it is "OK", but what is that saying exactly? Even compared to the original, DA is garbage. I haven't played the old gen one, so no idea how that is.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 21:03 Post subject: |
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The old gen DA i would say is only slightly worse than CT. I really liked the whole multiple ending angle and a more focused narrative, the gameplay is solid apart from some day missions.
My rating would be something like:
1.Chaos Theory
2.Blacklist
3.Double Agent (old gen)
4.Splinter Cell
5.Pandora Tomorrow
6.Conviction
Conviction co-op is quite nice though - much better than the single-player game
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 21:11 Post subject: |
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yea the "twist" at the end of conviction co-op was great, it was definitely a far better experience than the shitty single player.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Mar 2015 23:06 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | yea the "twist" at the end of conviction co-op was great, it was definitely a far better experience than the shitty single player. |
That's mostly because you have lulz with your mates, not because the game is any better. Any shit in coop is "improved" tenfold, even if just because of the giggles. Me and Neon had a lot of those with Constipation. |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 02:13 Post subject: |
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I really liked Double Agent, but Conviction and Blacklist both are shit.
1) Chaos Theory
2) Double Agent
3) Splinter Cell
4) Blacklist
5) Conviction
6) Pandora Tomorow
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 02:22 Post subject: |
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| streetunder wrote: | I really liked Double Agent, but Conviction and Blacklist both are shit.
1) Chaos Theory
2) Double Agent
3) Splinter Cell
4) Blacklist
5) Conviction
6) Pandora Tomorow |
How do you place pandora tommorow last, considering what you said about conviction and blacklist? its basically an expansion pack to splinter cell 1.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 03:22 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | I liked Blacklist but with the bugs in the crack I never finished it. And I don't use uplay so legit isn't going to happen on this one. |
The bugs are in the game, not the crack. I have the original and it's one technical fail after another. A shit port. |
No, the bugs I am talking about are the crack only. Specifically in the latest (1.03? Can't remember) version. It's a well known issue and as best as I can remember, goes away if you go back to 1.02. Mainly it's a crash to desktop issue. I didn't experience any of the other bugs you described.
I can't speak for the non-yarrrr version because, as I said, I'm not buying uplay games.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 03:38 Post subject: |
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I never had a single crash in blacklist to be honest, game ran 60 fps locked all the time, well optimized as far as i can see, i played it with this current setup and with an ancient build with a 9600gt and a dual core, never crashed there either.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 03:59 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | Finally completed this one and now i've completed 6 splinter cell games in a row, and played all of them but the psp exclusive. no more splinter cell goodness  |
*hands the Official Panther Badge* 
But you should have left one or two for the future, since Sam doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon. :< Ubi weren't too happy with Blacklist's numbers as far as I remember, they wanted at least three billion of units to be sold and got only 2 million instead. Though there's still a chance that he'll be back re-re-rebooted, darkier, sexier, pantherer™ for a larger audience now including housewives and gamers over 80.
If I had to rate them, my results would be similar to yours, only with Chaos Theory that would get the cake, followed by the emulated Double Agent, the first Sam, Pandora Tomorrow, Blacklist and the One Agent and a Half version that we got on PC. Conviction doesn't even belong here because otherwise Gears of War should qualify as well. |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Mar 2015 14:39 Post subject: |
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YAY, i'll put the panther badge on my wall next to my 8th place ribbons from spelling bee 
Sucks to hear they weren't happy with blacklist sales. I'd settle for that kind of splinter cell just to even have more of it, since chances of chaos theory/double agent old gen goodness in this day and age, seems unlikely from ubisoft. 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Mar 2015 20:38 Post subject: |
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$7.49 on steam this weekend and I'm still not buying it. Suck it UBI
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