Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 03:11    Post subject:
Just grab the Dark Athena'd EFBB Croc, I replayed it recently and it looked definitely better than the original, more than I remembered. Razz Mouse controls were fine too for me. (However you can still try to lock the framerate and/or set the max pre-rendered frames to 1 to improve the responsiveness)
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 03:18    Post subject:
Does the original have X360 controller support?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 11:04    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Just grab the Dark Athena'd EFBB Croc, I replayed it recently and it looked definitely better than the original, more than I remembered. Razz Mouse controls were fine too for me. (However you can still try to lock the framerate and/or set the max pre-rendered frames to 1 to improve the responsiveness)

Is opengl. Radeonpro makes it crash


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 11:07    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I can't guarantee it, but if I remember correctly the "Shader Model 2.0++" option can't be enabled on modern cards/drivers, so SS doesn't work in the original 2004 version of Riddick any more. That was from when I tried a long while back though.


I believe so, the game cannot recognize modern nvidia cards so the option is no longer selectable. Whether you could spoof your GPU's id and if that would have worked I don't know. Dark Athena is the superior version anyway which also does give you the option to enable soft shadows albeit through the console, with xr_softstencil 1, which is how I played the game.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 13:19    Post subject:
man, thats what I asked for, thanks!

Maybe this command also works in older game (I've tried spoofing to old nvidia cards with radeonpro but not worked).

Will try ss with Dark Athena Remake asap
edit(any more usefull commands ? I cannot find any command list online)


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:51    Post subject:
ok, soft shadows are working.

Shame the game have sooo much specular shimmering. It's gone with ssaax4 but so is framerate and so graphical glitches are introduced.

So maxed+soft shadows and 8x adaptive msaa mostly makes it look and work fatstic. Razz

Still not sure If I am replaying it - just fooling around for now


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 15:20    Post subject:
Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't aware you could enable SS in Dark Athena via a console command Facepalm
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 17:08    Post subject:
Ok I went out of my way and did a comparison on rmeake and original. both maxed ingame 1080p and forced 4xssaa.
btw tip for original - I had to lower polling rate on g400 down to 250. Otherwise it would skip like crazy

I don't know. The original looks kinda better ? It has that doom3 era look to it which I really like + It works faster, have red dot sight (not blue wtf) and dont have ssaa artifacts on models









































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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 17:46    Post subject:
The remake is better IMO, I did test them both for myself when I played it recently and it fits my tastes better.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 17:55    Post subject:
I'm torn to be honest, half and half as some scenes looked better in the original and some look better in the remake.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 17:57    Post subject:
You have to take into account things like the new takedown animations borrowed from Dark Athena as well Smile


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 18:05    Post subject:
Oh don't get me wrong, on the whole I definitely prefer the remake as the better game overall - just that they overdo the post-processing a bit and it damages some scenes.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 18:33    Post subject:
And the better models and shading win hands down.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2013 18:06    Post subject:
more 2004 vs remake.

I still can't decide but I think my nostalgia for original is winning even tho remake have better graphics. 2004 just seems more "as it was intended"

So I will finish both at the same time Laughing






































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edit: Any ideas how to anty alias specular aliasing ? It looks grat with ssaax4 but I have to disable model shadows because there is corruption on characters


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 01:15    Post subject:
both versions look good to me,

only pixel hunting really makes you notice the outdated feel of the first version Laughing

Is on my soon to play list as well, never played dark athena, and played only half or so of the original game.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 01:25    Post subject:
If YOu dont have nostalgia for the first game just play its graphical remake in dark athena Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 01:36    Post subject:
I'll be playing dark athena since I have that on steam so its just convinient Smile

I don't even know why I never finished the game since I loved it.

with far cry 1 was the first game I played on my
then new gaming build after a time of laptops.
Riddicks shiny head looked amazing at the time,
now it needs tesselation badly PC Master Race


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 01:38    Post subject:
Remake have new models I with more polys


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 07:54    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
both versions look good to me,

only pixel hunting really makes you notice the outdated feel of the first version Laughing

Is on my soon to play list as well, never played dark athena, and played only half or so of the original game.


Nope, in motion the difference is greater and immediately noticeable.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 01:21    Post subject:
holy crap!
FIXED shadows and models corruption when forcing 4xssaa.
Just use
xr_shadowmapmode 0 and it will change shadows to "original" version and nothing will be corrupted then! the shadows actually are higher qulity this way it seems.
read here
http://pastebin.com/atGxqU4d

also this disables color filter
xr_lod = 0

and those control gamma and blacks
vid_gamma 0.5 - this is default and it is good.
vid_black 0 . defalut is 0.5 higher and 0 is much better


examples
first is original, second my fixed









photo storage
look at fixed corruption on models and fixed blacks. not sure if I will play with disabled color filter tho


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 02:59    Post subject:
Nice job KC. I have the original copy handy with me. Does the 360 controller have native support?
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 03:20    Post subject:
Great sleuthing KC, I'll use that when I do a replay Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 05:20    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
Nice job KC. I have the original copy handy with me. Does the 360 controller have native support?

360 controller works but pc button prompts


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 07:32    Post subject:
Stop posting screens! You're gonna make me play this shit again Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:23    Post subject:
If it's so shit, why would you play it? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:34    Post subject:
Btw. There is also a way to reduce specular aliasing for those who cant afford 4xssaa

Specular reflections can be adjusted or even disabled via another command.
Srsly... what was starbreeze thinking. Thegame is shimmering like worst ive ever seen without ssaa. Deferred lighting on textures is so aggressive on default settings.
Forcing ssaa via ccc just works no problem tho.

The comand is xr_shaderspecularscale x y z. Those are numbers.
Setting 0 0 0 seems to be default. 1 0 0 completly disables the effect 0.0-1 0 0 makes for good afjustments.
Before i found way to fix shadows and ssaa working together setting that value to 0.3 0 0 gave a nice soft effect without terrible shimmering.
Thankfully with fix in previous post, the game works great and looks great with ssaa so no need for this. Just for those who want to also enable soft shadows or smth and cprefer soft shadows to ssaa. Because both soft shadows and ssaa are very demanding

Just heads up Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 17:18    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
If it's so shit, why would you play it? Rolling Eyes


You disappoint me my friend Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 17:34    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
xr_shadowmapmode 0 and it will change shadows to "original" version and nothing will be corrupted then! the shadows actually are higher qulity this way it seems.


The corrupted shadows you are talking about are tiny shadowmaps.

Switching to stencil shadows via that command leads to some super dark shadows that at times eg make the eyes of the characters if a shadow covers them super dark, or entirely missing shadows.

You are trading one problem (that is the expected output albeit a little glitchy) for another (that is the incorrect output meaning a higher chance of something looking "wrong").

edited for clarity!


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 18:04    Post subject:
So many years and still no new algorithm for shadowing but these two.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 18:12    Post subject:
We have screen space AO as well these days Cool Face


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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