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ixigia
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A suspect?
I was just a tactical diversion designed to draw you away from the main hacking attack!
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:17 Post subject: |
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| Horrordee wrote: | iconized, there is no way i can police my sig. but i agree, that's what started his issues with me. the fact i refused to take down my sig after he threw his toys out of the pram. I did however put it to a mod vote, and the only person on this whole forum that saw a problem with it was twobells, so it remained.
either way, i ended up spoilering it for him (not that it helped his attitude towards me), because he refused to use adblock due to his belief it would collect personal data on him (and disable his LCD TV*)
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I have been in a MMO for 2 years and became one of the guild/clan leaders.
I have had a talk with a guy that stated to me he had a real hatred for person x, I said well just block him (ignore) and then he said: "No then I can't see his insults."
The problem does not lie with you Horrordee but with the people who filled your signature and yes they had a plan, the plan was to get tb perm banned.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:25 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | Don't worry ixiga, as a lawyer, I am hereby ready -if you're willing- to represent you in the internatical court of law.  |
Sure, keep you warm*, I have the right to receive a compensation for moral damage caused by the unlawful action of the incriminate user. 
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:25 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | Horrordee wrote: | iconized, there is no way i can police my sig. but i agree, that's what started his issues with me. the fact i refused to take down my sig after he threw his toys out of the pram. I did however put it to a mod vote, and the only person on this whole forum that saw a problem with it was twobells, so it remained.
either way, i ended up spoilering it for him (not that it helped his attitude towards me), because he refused to use adblock due to his belief it would collect personal data on him (and disable his LCD TV*)
*i made that bit up |
I have been in a MMO for 2 years and became one of the guild/clan leaders.
I have had a talk with a guy that stated to me he had a real hatred for person x, I said well just block him (ignore) and then he said: "No then I can't see his insults."
The problem does not lie with you Horrordee but with the people who filled your signature and yes they had a plan, the plan was to get tb perm banned. |
that is a bold claim. Not everything has to be a conspiracy, when you can explain the events also differently. |
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:36 Post subject: |
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so why did iNathan create this thread? to gloat perhaps?
twobells became irrational because of the insults in Horrordee's signature!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:43 Post subject: |
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Are you serious? Do you even remember what was in the original post? I was joking twobells will create another "the next sinner I name/....." thread. I didn't even know he was permbanned.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 02:47 Post subject: |
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I am serious yes. I think you are a sociopath.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:01 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | so why did iNathan create this thread? to gloat perhaps?
twobells became irrational because of the insults in Horrordee's signature! |
and because twobells cant take a joke, the one making the joke is responsible for the actions of the humorless? (<= i m simplifiying there to exemplify my point, so dont attack me on that one, because i already know it is improper, but i hope you get the point)
the important thing about that sig-chat is, that it is TRANSIENT in nature in that everybody can write shit there. It stays for exactly four lines of "chat". If anything it is like having a window into a pub, where the music is too loud to make much out of the talks going on. If you intentionally stick your head in to take part in the conversations, its your own fault for fighting windmills imho. Why not be a compassionate lion (the bigger man) and graze elsewhere?
i also had fun with the sigchat (not once about twobells though) and made fun of myself in there. Embrace the things or leave them be, its what i d say on matters like that. |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:06 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | I am serious yes. I think you are a sociopath. |
you know what a sociopath is, right?
ICD10 criteria - It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:
1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy.
2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships.
4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
5. Incapacity to experience guilt and to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6. Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict.
7. Persistent irritability.
The last three could very well also be descriptive of twobells or others on the forum. Not to mention that a diagnose like that should really be done by professionals and not based on internet-interactions. Otherwise it might come of as slander :\ |
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:25 Post subject: |
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Hmm the DSM does not use the term but uses Anti-Social Behaviour Personality Disorder.
Anyway Lutzifer you know that you need some prolonged observation for that?
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:26 Post subject: |
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@Horrordee
You can defend it all you want, but I'm sure that many other users see your signature as extremely childish, and the fact that you don't take it off, because that way it would look like you're admitting in your mistakes, even more so.
I know a very few people who wouldn't snap eventually after a whole blood thirsty e-mob continuously mentally lynch him, so twobells fell in your trap and you were more than happy banning him over and over again.
You exploit the fact the the sig is not an integrate part of NFOhump, and that you don't have control of what's going on there. Yet a person who still got his logic, would see this as nothing less than trolling under the protection of the mod rights and some silly excuses.
I see it as a fact that not all the mods/admins here agree with your ways, and the proof to that is that someone unbanned twobells (probably felt that justice wasn't done here), only to have you banning him again. Yet the mods have their conspiracy of silence and don't publicly criticize you for what's going on. They see that bashing twobells is a popular activity on the forums lately, so why would they go against the mob and risk being unpopular among either the users and other mods?
Also you keep canceling tb's claims about someone getting into his account and changing stuff, by keeping claiming that he still talks about the script, even though he clearly said it's about the account itself. So according to you tb is either a lier or and idiot, but you didn't say any of that. Keeping the scenario that it's all about the script is the easier thing to do, and it keeps you in the "gray area" by not having to lie directly.
In more than one post, you stated that "no one hacked his account", ofc you couldn't be 100% sure of that, unless you knew the real truth.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:30 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | Hmm the DSM does not use the term but uses Anti-Social Behaviour Personality Disorder.
Anyway Lutzifer you know that you need some prolonged observation for that? |
yes, because "sociopath" is a term nowadays usually described as ASPD. And yes, i know, which is why i said in my previous post to keep a diagnosis like that in the hands of people capable of doing it. Otherwise it is often slanderous and unfounded. |
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Nalo
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:31 Post subject: |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:38 Post subject: |
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@oxygeL: do you really think that if it was about the real account Rinze wouldnt have given any tinkering mod a good hiding if not stripped him of his modding privileges completely?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:39 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | iconized wrote: | Hmm the DSM does not use the term but uses Anti-Social Behaviour Personality Disorder.
Anyway Lutzifer you know that you need some prolonged observation for that? |
yes, because "sociopath" is a term nowadays usually described as ASPD. And yes, i know, which is why i said in my previous post to keep a diagnosis like that in the hands of people capable of doing it. Otherwise it is often slanderous and unfounded. |
I am asking this seriously. Are these the correct symptoms? (From Wikipedia)
* Persistent lying or stealing
* Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
* Cruelty to animals[4]
* Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
* A history of childhood conduct disorder
* Recurring difficulties with the law
* Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
* Substance abuse
* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
* Inability to tolerate boredom
* Disregard for safety
Seriously speaking, I have been here for a very long time, and anyone with little person skills willing to look beyond my intentional trolling over the years, out of these only the occasional "Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others" and "Inability to tolerate boredom" are the ones that fit me. But please keep the diagnoses coming, they will save me some cash if I decide go visit the shrink. I also prefer the night to day, and work (study, code, etc) much easily during the night. Take this into consideration. Something else, I find it easy to adapt to the "style" of the people I am in contact with - I do it unintentionally. If I speak with someone who has an accent, my Hebrew tends to worsen. If a person uses some body language, I tend to pick it up and use it with them as well.
Lutzi I am willing to pay in any means he deems fit. =] |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:43 Post subject: |
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i m not even going to touch that one without having talked to you face to face (sexual encounters not counting) 
My professional "educated guess" from what i know about you from this forum is: No, you are not. Which is why i said two times already that such a claim is slanderous. 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:45 Post subject: |
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I added more information above (for the diagnosis).
To be honest, I am sure I have some anti-social sides. For example, I do not like crowded places, I much prefer a more intimate conversation or party or whatever with the people I care about, without too much "background noise".
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:48 Post subject: |
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that may be the opposite of anti-social, because you prefer the more social interactions. But as i said, i have no clue why he would be throwing about the word in the first place.
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TSR69
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:52 Post subject: |
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Actually, after I finished my 3 year Bachelor's degree sprint last summer, I am, yes.
And I never claimed I am perfect. Where have you seen me doing it? If you don't want to talk to me, you are welcome to hit the ignore button and be done with it.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:53 Post subject: |
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 perfect start for a flamewar of epic proportions *dons the anti-inflammatory vest*
edit: woops, ninja'd by leo |
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:55 Post subject: |
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you guys suck...
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:56 Post subject: |
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you wish. If you know what i mean and i think that you do 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:56 Post subject: |
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No, there is nothing to flame here, I think I see what iconized is doing (trying to troll me, like I supposedly did with twobells), but it doesn't work with me. Or perhaps this makes me a sociopath? 
Ah I see, I was right.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:58 Post subject: |
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i always had you for more of a psychopath really anyways
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:58 Post subject: |
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Indeed
Now, shut up, I need to go back to raping 5 year old girls while I use the electric chainsaw on their mothers and fathers. 
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 03:59 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | @oxygeL: do you really think that if it was about the real account Rinze wouldnt have given any tinkering mod a good hiding if not stripped him of his modding privileges completely? |
I sure want to believe in that yes, but still there are the questions I wrote still hanging, and the sig thingy that in a proper forum a mod would've been strapped from his rights just for that.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 04:00 Post subject: |
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@oxyeL
Did you forget perhaps about Jenni? She got banned for threatening to expose Juba's IP to the public. I don't remember admins being accused back then of not being fair.
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