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jackbomb
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vurt
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VR would make so much sense for a game like this. Doubtful it would win me over without it.
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2022 17:53 Post subject: |
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lol, so this game been in development since 2014?
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2022 21:47 Post subject: |
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It's been an extra-long gestation alright, I remember at least a couple of Kickstarter campaigns and the game that was supposed to be split into two parts until eventually, they made up their minds and got some sweet Softdollars as well in the process. Honestly, my expectations are pretty low at this point but a man can hope 
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2022 22:47 Post subject: |
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This game will unlock in approximately 13 hours.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 12:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 15:27 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 16:45 Post subject: |
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so yeah.. no surprises here. skip.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 17:19 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | Scorn-Razor1911 |
That was my only question, thanks for the answer 
Grabbed the GoG version instead, tho
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 23:07 Post subject: |
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Reviews down to Mixed on Steam.
Quote from a review:
"Nothing is explained about this world whatsoever and to say this game has "environmental storytelling" is a joke. The game sets up all these questions about how all these people died and what went wrong and NEVER answers them. It feels like they had to cut allot of what was planned for whatever reason."
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2022 23:47 Post subject: |
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TBH if you love Giger as I do, you will enjoy it as a walk through Giger-like art gallery. But so far it's walking sim with some puzzles and not much going on.
And comparing it to Agony it's a detrimental to Scorn. It's biopunk and body horror and not "look vagina demon".
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DXWarlock
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| VonMisk wrote: | | And comparing it to Agony it's a detrimental to Scorn. It's biopunk and body horror and not "look vagina demon". |
Not saying it objectively. More subjectively just to me is all I meant: Take away the graphic appeal to a specific audience (be it perverse macabre, or gritty macabre) and both boils down to a museum walk with complicated doorknobs to get to the other galleys.
Not diminishing those that enjoy it, or belittling it. I guess both has the same lack of appeal to me that both seem a situation of if you dont simply enjoy seeing it as the experience, there is no game.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 00:31 Post subject: |
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@DXWarlock
Don't worry I agree with most what you say. I was just comparing artstyle, which in Agony for me was bloody stool hell.
But, yeah so far it's what you said - a museum walk with locked galleries. There isn't even much in terms of exploration and lore with invisible walls everywhere. I will probably play it to the end but wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants something more than art over substance.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 02:48 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | Reviews down to Mixed on Steam.
Quote from a review:
"Nothing is explained about this world whatsoever and to say this game has "environmental storytelling" is a joke. The game sets up all these questions about how all these people died and what went wrong and NEVER answers them. It feels like they had to cut allot of what was planned for whatever reason." |
Agreed and i just finished it. It gives you literally nothing at all. There will be tons of speculation out there, but that will be all it'll be. Some puzzles were fun, but it wasn't just a walking sim. It's as much of a walking sim as Alien Isolation. You have your guns and monsters to avoid.
I loved the design. It's macabre and it's fantastic. There isn't much of this anymore so it's a welcome sight.
One critique would be that there wasn't much creepy stuff except for the beginning and the end. Rest was corridor shooter with some puzzles here and there.
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headshot
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Scorn_Crackfix-Razor1911
| Quote: | Unfortunately the game stress tested our SaveGame implementation.
We fixed that for you! |
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 09:47 Post subject: |
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| VonMisk wrote: | | a walk through Giger-like art gallery... |
Yea, I think that's the absolute best description for this... 'game'.
@Stormwolf
Alien Isolation has world building, progression, fear, an excellent gameplay loop. This game has none of that... just an art gallery. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 13:22 Post subject: |
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It's a shame because one can tell that multiple visions and ideas were presented, but none of them could emerge from the slimy Gigerian blob thus leading to a simplistic undercooked hodgepodge. I would have actually loved if the game was structured as a Myst-like clone with non-linear design, intricate puzzles and no combat, which is what the first area tries to do (not very successfully, though it's the part that I liked the most).
Thing is, such a formula would have required efforts from the devs and at the same time it would have been too hardcore for the console/Gamepass audience, hence the streamlinization to a more corridor-like design as well as the implementation of some exceptionally lousy combat, which feels tacked on and not scary in the slightest. Moreover, the "show don't tell" type of narrative works when there is interesting lore involved, and that's not the case here. A missed opportunity, though it doesn't come as a surprise. *unintelligible blubbering noises*
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 16:03 Post subject: |
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It isn't THAT hard to create a story / world.
Even Agony - in the deepest HELL - had a bloody story stuck in it. You would have an antagonist, letters within the game-world that would hint at reasons of why, when, what in the hell is happening.
- Hey, we got a tremendous talented visual artist!
- Cool, let's make a videogame!
- But what about gameplay, mechanics, story?!
- Fuck those man, all style - no substance, all the way through!
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 16:44 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | | VonMisk wrote: | | a walk through Giger-like art gallery... |
Yea, I think that's the absolute best description for this... 'game'.
@Stormwolf
Alien Isolation has world building, progression, fear, an excellent gameplay loop. This game has none of that... just an art gallery. |
I was solely talking about the gameplay. It has shooting and mechanics. The story is severely lackinh as people say. You get nothing whatsoever.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 17:28 Post subject: |
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Those 'mechanics' are quite... barebone.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 20:15 Post subject: |
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'a walk through Giger-like art gallery' is a very apt description. Awesome art style, everything else is disappointing.
*JC Denton voice* What a shame.
"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Oct 2022 20:49 Post subject: |
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Looks like a BSP viewer to me.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Oct 2022 00:46 Post subject: |
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Yeah, but you agree that 'more than a walking sim' is far from enough...
'The Vanishing of Ethan Carter' was a good walking sim and a MUCH better game than this.
So the 'walking sim' label is not necessarily a mark for lack of quality...
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| Quote: | | All the storytelling happens in-game, with no cut-scenes to distract you from the grisly reality of the living, breathing world you’re in. |
Whenever I read things like this, I just assume that means they lacked the funds/staff/technology to do cutscenes. Good job PR guys.
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