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 Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 17:12 Post subject: Ban Cheese doodles (Worldwide)? |
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I personally don't like the smell of Cheese Doodles, so when people eat it around me i feel sick. Smells like fart. Also, it's not healthy. So i guess it should be banned seeing as it is a hazard for those eating and those unfortunate people in the proximity of people eating it in front of them. This is how things are done now, isn't it?
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tw1st
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 17:16 Post subject: |
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some men just want to watch the world burn...
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 17:59 Post subject: |
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Hell yeah, ban that disgusting crap. 
2nd hand cheese noodling, the greasy fingerprints that those who eat them leave everywhere before washing their hands, public cheese noodling bejjjjjjj 
Not to mention the trillions in healthcare that arise from the treatment of those who eat that life threatening stuff, etc.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:07 Post subject: |
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You can work off fat. Let's see you work off cancer.
| chiv wrote: | | don't quote me on that |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:13 Post subject: |
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Here the stupidity about smoking and cancer :
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/smokingandtobacco/smoking-and-cancer
| Quote: | | Thanks to years of research, the links between smoking and cancer are now very clear. Smoking is by far the most important preventable cause of cancer in the world. Smoking accounts for one in four UK cancer deaths, and nearly a fifth of all cancer cases. |
So, 3 out of 4 cancer deaths aren't smoking related and 4 out of 5 cases aren't smoking related either ?
Am i the only one missing something here ?
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:26 Post subject: |
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I say we ban everything that annoys me.
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deelix
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:45 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:51 Post subject: |
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my point is,
75% of cancer deaths aren't smoking related.
80% of cancer cases aren't smoking related.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:54 Post subject: |
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I think the more important statistic from that link is:
| Quote: | | The fact is that half of all smokers eventually die from cancer, or other smoking-related illnesses. And a quarter of smokers die in middle age, between 35 and 69. |
| chiv wrote: | | don't quote me on that |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 18:57 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | MinderMast wrote: | You are seeing it wrong... it's not 25% of people who got cancer, but 25% of people who died of cancer. This is where we get conspiracy theories from.. people are so easily confused by hard data 
I can also break it down:
- Say 100 people got cancer. Out of those 100, 20 got cancer because of smoking.
- Out of 60 that died, 15 were the ones who got it from smoking
- to compare 15 out of 20 "smoker cancers" were with lethal outcome.
You can't really make any conclusions without knowing the breakdown of other cancer cases, but just by seeing the share of smoking related cancer incidents increase from overall cases to deaths, you could argue that it has a relatively high lethality rate. |
that makes more sense, your wording up there was a bit confusing. |
Yeah, it kinda is confusing 
I just didn't want to go into all details, since it looked like people just need to take a closer look at a sentence again 
| Sin317 wrote: | my point is,
75% of cancer deaths aren't smoking related.
80% of cancer cases aren't smoking related. |
Okay, but what's your point exactly?
Considering all the various cancers and causes for them, 20-25% is a high enough number...
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 19:47 Post subject: |
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Ban whatever, but u come near my cheetos and ill stab jesus
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 20:03 Post subject: |
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my point was, it's more about fear mongering then anything else. Is smoking healthy ? Certainly not. Are your chances of dying prematurely (not natural), maybe, but probably not as considerably higher, then what they want you to believe.
Here, found this, among many other :
http://www.freedom-of-choice.com/AS3.htm
has source links etc. to WHO and other researches. Like i suspected, it's another hijacked "cause" lol.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 20:45 Post subject: |
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And to add to your stats:
| Quote: | | The most commonly diagnosed cancers worldwide are lung (1.61 million, 12.7% of the total), breast (1.38 million, 10.9%) and colorectal cancers (1.23 million, 9.7%). The most common causes of cancer death are lung cancer (1.38 million, 18.2% of the total), stomach cancer (738,000 deaths, 9.7%) and liver cancer (696,000 deaths, 9.2%). |
You can argue all you want about how small it is, but it's at the top of the god damn list either way...
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 20:52 Post subject: |
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yeah, but as usual it's all about numbers and people taking them totally out of context.
Don't wanna smoke ? Good, that's your choice. But stop telling me i can't and throw numbers taken totally out of context at me.
That's all i am saying.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 21:03 Post subject: |
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To be fair, you presented the first numbers as some kind of proof yourself (and I actually had to explain their context to you ). And when it didn't suit you, you brought in different numbers.
So, basically, you are the one throwing numbers around and then just end it with "I don't care and I do what I want".
I am not on the side of banning it flat out, but you can't expect people to be happy with "look, there's only like 2% chance that you will die of lung cancer because I can't bring myself not smoke wherever I want, so deal with it"
Edit: As a disclaimer, I do realise that chances of me dying due to lung cancer because of a few chance encounters with a smoker are much lower than that, but the point is still valid in principle.
All that is being asked from either side is some consideration towards others, and for some reason everyone on each side of the argument believes it's all up to the other side
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Jul 2013 00:11 Post subject: |
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People around me can devour tonnes of these cheese doodles, just don't touch my stuff with them cheese-flavoured greasy hands and we'll get along just fine xD
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Jul 2013 05:14 Post subject: |
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That shit is gross. I find it as disgusting as bodily hair.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 13:58 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | my point was, it's more about fear mongering then anything else. Is smoking healthy ? Certainly not. Are your chances of dying prematurely (not natural), maybe, but probably not as considerably higher, then what they want you to believe.
Here, found this, among many other :
http://www.freedom-of-choice.com/AS3.htm
has source links etc. to WHO and other researches. Like i suspected, it's another hijacked "cause" lol. |
Cancer is not the only health issue linked to smoking.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 14:33 Post subject: |
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But it's bullshit fearmongering.
They proved now, that second hand smoke is basically a big hoax and it doesn't affect anyone on a health level.
Don't get me wrong, i'm all about not smoking in a restaurant (or heck, inside), but people bringing up bullshit reasons is just ... too much of the same.
hearth disease is one (or the ) top killers. So lets forbid all fatty and salty food from now. Then there is diabetes, so lets forbid all sugar loaded foods and then there is ... and ... and ... so lets forbid everything.
Oh and and don't forget about Air (O2) and oxidation .. so lets forbid breathing ...
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